COLD AIR BOX Available!

[99mx5]

The wait is finally over!

The cold air boxes for the NB are ready to sell for both hotsides and coldsides. This cold air box uses the factory routing of cold air from the front bumper to the location under the driver's side headlight. The cold air box creates a chamber to separate the incoming cold air from the engine bay. The boxes are insulated and have a brushed aluminum finish with stainless steel lid screws. All mounting hardware is included.

For hotsides:
All that is needed is the box and filter. You can reuse your intake hose.

For coldsides:
Depending on when you bought your coldside, you can get only the needed parts to add the cold air box to your kit.

Parts:
- Cold air box
- 42" flex hose
- EGR bracket (You will have to shorten the Stainless steel tube for the new bracket.)
- Air filter

If you recently purchased a kit with the new cone shaped filter and new EGR bracket, then all you need is the box.

The most cost effective way is to get the box from me, the filter from Anazon.com and the rest from Tom depending on what you need to add the box to your kit. Some will only need the EGR bracket and the hose, others will only need the hose.

The boxes are $80 + shipping.
Filters are available at amazon for about $39 shipped
EGR Bracket is approx $25
Flex hose is approx $5 per foot


I can assemble all the parts and ship the complete kit but there may be added costs due to multiple shipping.

There are 10 boxes left in this batch.

[MX-Drew]

Put down one for me please.

I have pm'ed you.

[sbeck37923]

Do you have pictures of the final box installed on a 99 with a coldside? Or something similar?

[99mx5]

I sure do!
http://www.fastforwardsuperchargers.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=518&d=1236119315

[HotsideHamid]

Is there an NA version coming soon? :biggrin:

-Hamid

[FormerDatsun510Man]

Looks awesome Ari! I've always been impressed with the workmanship of the projects you posted online. Once I am sure all the customers have one, I think I will have to order one from you :biggrin:.

Bill

[99mx5]

Is there an NA version coming soon? :biggrin:
-Hamid

At this point I have a template for the NA cold airbox but need more pics to confirm clearances before moving forward with the design

[HotsideHamid]

Great! Good to know, and ecited to see the product. Thanks for supplying us with more mods!

-Hamid

[Mark]

but need more pics to confirm clearances before moving forward with the design

What pics do you need? I'd be happy to go out and snap a few!

[ScottA]

A while back it was mentioned" that you may make this kit avilable with silicone hoses instead of the flex hose" --, Is that idea still a go, and if so what would the extra cost amount to ?

[99mx5]

The silicone/aluminum intake hose is still feasible but the cost for the hose is above $100 compared to approx $25 for the flex hose.

The silicone intake requires a silicone 90 degree elbow, an aluminum 45 degree elbow, a long leg 45 degree silicone elbow, an aluminum coupler and a straight section of silicone hose.

[Godless Commie]

Is there any cutting involved when installing the CAI in an NB?

[99mx5]

This installation requires no cutting or drilling of your car to install it. The cold air box uses factory mounting points to install it. I tried to post the installation instructions, but this forum wont allow me to do it.

[Race Grandpa I]

Ari,

As you know I bought your unit that has silcone tube and can not be seen in the engine bay, which I really like. :yes:
And would not change as I like the look of a clean engine bay

Curious, do you have any idea what the performance differences would be between the two?

I also wonder how much of a difference putting an air scoop on the hood would make. If an air scoop makes a significant difference, I wonder if it could be placed just ahead of the SC and have some type of interior scoop that would pick up the air coming in through the hood scoop.

That was a pretty detailed explanation for someone who only knows how to change the oil. :sweatdrop:

[MX-Drew]

Ari,

As you know I bought your unit that has silcone tube and can not be seen in the engine bay, which I really like. :yes:
And would not change as I like the look of a clean engine bay



Can you post a picture please.

[Race Grandpa I]

Can you post a picture please.

I can't see it!!! I had some pictures that Ari sent me. However, that was with it not installed. I am sure Ari has some Pics of it not installed.

[MX-Drew]

I can't see it!!! I had some pictures that Ari sent me. However, that was with it not installed. I am sure Ari has some Pics of it not installed.

I would like to see a picture of it installed if possible.

[Race Grandpa I]

I can not see it to photograph it. I found some of Ari's pictures in my Trashcan.

I also found in the trashcan Ari's instructions in a word doc file that has all of the pictures. Can not upload word docs in this forum's system. Email me and I will return it with doc.

[99mx5]

I liked the clean look too. I also loved the supercharger whine from the short intake. Its hard to say what the performance benefits would be among the two intakes because they are so different. One idea would be to run a duct from the nose of the bumper to the filter area to get cooler air to the filter.

The pictures of the older intake style are in the stickied thread. http://www.fastforwardsuperchargers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=977

It was one of the reasons I started this new one.



Ari,

As you know I bought your unit that has silcone tube and can not be seen in the engine bay, which I really like. :yes:
And would not change as I like the look of a clean engine bay

Curious, do you have any idea what the performance differences would be between the two?

I also wonder how much of a difference putting an air scoop on the hood would make. If an air scoop makes a significant difference, I wonder if it could be placed just ahead of the SC and have some type of interior scoop that would pick up the air coming in through the hood scoop.

That was a pretty detailed explanation for someone who only knows how to change the oil. :sweatdrop:

[Race Grandpa I]

I liked the clean look too. I also loved the supercharger whine from the short intake.

Adjusting a Mustang Dynos reading to a DynoJet I have approximately 195whp. More than I need. If I want more, I will get a bigger pulley - like say 165mm. :stuart:

[99mx5]

I think the base setup was perfect for me too.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Yes, but you can never have enough cold air.


Adjusting a Mustang Dynos reading to a DynoJet I have approximately 195whp. More than I need. If I want more, I will get a bigger pulley - like say 165mm. :stuart:

[MX-Drew]

Posted on behalf of Ari.

Updated instructions to fit CAI. 584

[MX-Drew]

The problem we have in the UK (it should be the same for all RHD cars) is that the brake master cylinder is right in line with the TB on the bulkhead and then under the inlet manifold is the steering column (if you LHD guys look at your engine bay around the exhaust manifold that is just about what us RHD guys have around the inlet side) so it does not leave much room for a silicon elbow but with Ari's CAI a rubber hose or for that matter a silicon elbow can fit on the TB and go over the brake master cylinder (makes it a pain to top the brake fluid up but that is worth it for the cold air and power). :driving:

[99mx5]

Another note to mention is that this box also works for hotsiders!
Chuck, are you listening? ;)

[MikeyLikesIt]

Count me in for the box, I have a hotside. Which filter from Amazon do I need?

Mike

[99mx5]

The cone filter is available from amazon.com for $39.56 with free shipping: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000E7H390/ref=sr_1_olp_1?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1241318717&sr=1-1

[99mx5]

Six cold air boxes left... :cool:

[Race Grandpa I]

So Tom can not get enough cold air (assuming that Version II provides more than Version I) why not make the box bigger so a block of dry ice can fit in it?

Would the SC get frost bite?

[ScottA]

Yes, but you can never have enough cold air.

Not true Tom-- You should come up here to North Dakota in Feb. :cool:

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

We've hit 100 already and it was 98 today. I can never get enough cold air. The rest of you are on your own. ;)

[99mx5]

We've hit 100 already and it was 98 today. I can never get enough cold air. The rest of you are on your own. ;)

We hit the 90s yesterday here in NM too. I can get plenty of cold air from my AC :)

[chuckerants]

Wish I could buy one. :(Another note to mention is that this box also works for hotsiders!
Chuck, are you listening? ;)

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

If a couple of you guys with 94-97 cars would send Ari a couple pictures of the hotside of the car so he could get a couple measurements, he could finish the CAI for the 94-97.

[Race Grandpa I]

Curious as to how the different ambient temperatures impact performance.

Typically we are in the mid to upper 70s in the summer. (Thats why I have no A/C and run with the top down all of the time. :yes:)

I would suspect that AZ is 25* to 30* hotter. :sweatdrop:

How much power loss would there be with a 25* to 30* hotter day???

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Most people figure about .5 to1 HP per 10*. The key is that the underhood temperature is probably 170-180 where you are and 200 or so here with the sun beating down on the hood. Most of it is engine heat. With the CAI, the temperature is 1-2* above outside ambient as measured at the air filter (2-4* at the TB). If it is 170-180* at your place and the outside air is 70*, you would gain about 100-110* or about 8 HP. Over here, with 200* under hood and 120* ambient, we would stand to pick up 80* or about 6 HP. You would probably benifit better than us. That is pure conjecture though. Bill would be better at this answer than me.


Curious as to how the different ambient temperatures impact performance.

Typically we are in the mid to upper 70s in the summer. (Thats why I have no A/C and run with the top down all of the time. :yes:)

I would suspect that AZ is 25* to 30* hotter. :sweatdrop:

How much power loss would there be with a 25* to 30* hotter day???

[FormerDatsun510Man]

When your car is on the dyno, the hood is open and you are essentially getting ambient air. So this is the best case scenario. It is true that the fans at the dyno probably don't equate to the amount of airflow your car sees out on the road at 100mph, but then again I have found that the Coldsides seem to make pretty consistent power on the dyno... even when I did runs that were only 1 or 2 min apart.

What the cold air intake does is prevents you from losing power from that best case dynoed amount, when the hood is closed and you are driving down the real road. It gets hot under the hood and depending on the air filter location, the air intake temps can get pretty hot at the MAF. From what I have seen, with the CAI, the temps get as close to ambient as I think are possible. Without it, and the air filter mounted over behind the driver's side headlight (US cars only :)), I saw temps that were 30-40 deg F over ambient when stopped and then they would drop to about 10-20 deg F over ambient when in motion. Specifically the density of air is proportionally changed if say the outside temp is 70 deg F by:

(460 + 70)/(460 + 70 + 15) = 97.2%, which means 195rwhp becomes an actual 190rwhp (195 * .972) when moving without a CAI and seeing a temp rise of 15 deg F over ambient at the MAF

(460 + 70)/(460 + 70 + 35) = 93.8%, which means 195rwhp becomes an actual 183rwhp (195 * .938) when stopped and without a CAI and seeing a temp rise of 35 deg F over ambient at the MAF

While with the CAI, you would be as close to an actual 195rwhp as possible.

Actually, keep in mind, I am only talking about temperature related affect on actual power. The altitude and humidity will also effect the actual power too of course. Those two variables are not changed with the CAI.

Bill

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

If your EGR plate looks like the "OLD" version on the left, it will need to be replaced. If it looks like the "NEW" version on the right, you probably also have a long enough hose unless you cut it.

[Race Grandpa I]

THANKS FOR THE EXPLANATION.

BILL DO YOU STILL USE A SLIDE RULER?

AS SOON AS I UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE ACRONYMS STAND FOR I MIGHT BE HALFWAY THERE.

:stupid:


BILL IN TEN WORDS OR LESS HOW DOES THE HUMIDITY EFFECT THE POWER.


How are you doing in Scottsdale. :nono:

[FormerDatsun510Man]

http://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_hp.htm

Actually, my simplified approach above was not quite in agreement with the SAE method of correction factor.

FYI, the difference in power output with higher humidity air, based on the SAE correction factor, is fairly minor compared to altitude and temp. The difference between 0 and 100% humidity is about 3% in output.

Also based on the calculator at that site, for an air temp rise from 70 to 85 deg would be a relative horsepower correction of 98.4% and from 70 to 105 deg would be 96.3%. So in those cases we are looking at 195rwhp becoming 192 and 188rwhp, respectively (rather than what I estimated above as 190 and 183rwhp). Interestingly, according to the SAE formula, the output of engine is proportional to the square root of the absolute temperature, rather than directly linear like I assumed :).

Based on messing around with the numbers, you would be fairly close to figure the following would cause a 1% decrease in output:

An increase in humidity of 33%.
An increase in temperature of 10 deg F.
An increase in altitude of 250 ft.

The corrected numbers you see on a dyno are for what the engine would output at sea level, 0% humidity and 77 deg F.

Dang, that's over ten words!

Bill

[Race Grandpa I]

Thanks Bill.

It sounds to me like one would need a multiple regression model that can vary each of those three factors independent of one another to figure out the myraid of possibilities.

Are the dyno's that accurate or is there a little person in the dyno with a slideruler. :biggrin:

[lds2002black]

Just for information sake ... my 2002 would read 140º at the IAT with the standard coldside filter location on a 90º day with the A/c on. Mine now resides in the fender behind the fog lamp and normally reads with in a couple of degrees of ambient even with the A/C on.

[oldtimer02]

Ari,
Great job on the ram air box!
If I had not built my own I'd be in line!

[99mx5]

Thanks! :) It took longer than I thought from prototype to mass production. I learned a lot along the way and continue to learn.

[MikeyLikesIt]

Got mine as well, looks awesome. The only problem is I wrecked my car on Monday. :no:

So it will have to wait...

Thanks again.

[Michael T]

Thanks Ari, great product! I went to Tom's place on Monday to pick up the bracket and hose I needed. Then while I was driving around yesterday I could hear the CAI calling me from the trunk. So I took this morning off and installed it. IA is much cooler and seat of the pants acceleration seems a fair bit stronger.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Not too bad, I hope.


Got mine as well, looks awesome. The only problem is I wrecked my car on Monday. :no:

So it will have to wait...

Thanks again.

[MikeyLikesIt]

Not too bad, I hope.


So far, about 5K worth, I'm being told. If I had popped the airbags, it would have been totaled. I actually went under a Ford Festiva (!) That's why the bags didn't go off.

I did tell my wife I wanted the front end repainted, but this isn't quite the way I wanted to go about it...

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

1) You are OK
2) It's fixable
3) You are OK
4) The front end will get repaired
5) You are OK

It could have been worse.

[MX-Drew]

1) You are OK
2) It's fixable
3) You are OK
4) The front end will get repaired
5) You are OK

It could have been worse.

Totally agree, although it can be hard to take when looking at the twisted metal but one day it will be in the past.

[MikeyLikesIt]

It costs much worse than it looks...

[socal pat]

So far, about 5K worth, I'm being told. If I had popped the airbags, it would have been totaled. I actually went under a Ford Festiva (!) That's why the bags didn't go off.

I did tell my wife I wanted the front end repainted, but this isn't quite the way I wanted to go about it...

About 6 months ago I tango'd with a pole. $4,800 later and my hood looks better than it has in years :)

[99mx5]

Only 4 boxes left... :)

[elerner]

Hi Ari, I'll take one. I'll send you a pm.

Evan

[99mx5]

What pics do you need? I'd be happy to go out and snap a few!

I need a top-down pic of the frame rail area near the supercharger nose. If possible, place a tape measure over the blower with the end of the tape at the inner edge of the mounting flange of the fender. Of course, this only applies to those with a hotside in a NA.

[beatle]

Someone get Ari those pics! It's hot in here! :taz: :)

[elerner]

If your EGR plate looks like the "OLD" version on the left, it will need to be replaced. If it looks like the "NEW" version on the right, you probably also have a long enough hose unless you cut it.

Tom/Ari,

I can't seem to find the earlier post regarding the need for the EGR relocation (and updated EGR bracket) and picture. Where does the updated EGR bracket move it to?. Looking at the picture Tom posted of the two brackets side by side, it seems a little funky.

Thx.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

It goes back in the same place. It simply rotates to lower the EGR. Kind of lays down.

[99mx5]

The new bracket is designed to use the stock unmodified EGR tube. The tube flange rests on the IM top plate. The tube end of the new bracket rests on the IM top plate and the EGR valve side hangs over the edge and is tilted towards the engine. I think I rotated the connector on the valve to face the engine. The intake hose curves up and over the whole assembly. For 99-00 engines, the intake hose goes over the plug wires over the #4 area, for the 01+ the hose crosses over further back behind the #4 plug area.

[99mx5]

One box left! :)

[ncelk]

Is that the one I bought, or did I buy the next to last one?:yes:

[99mx5]

:)
You have the next to last one.

[biketrey]

If there's one left, I'll take it....

[99mx5]

I PMed details to you biketrey.

[99mx5]

Last box sold. Time to make another batch. :)

[beatle]

This time for an NA! :)

[99mx5]

The next batch of NB boxes should go smoothly. I have patterns for the NA CAI box. I need top down pics of the area behind the headlight for a NA MP62 Hotside setup. I have to make sure the blower clears the box and MAF.


To the current CAI owners: How has the kit been for you? I'd love to hear your feedback!

[jportwood]

What's the part number for the k&n filter without the chrome cap that fits the 99. Thanks

[beatle]

Would this cold air box fit a Moss MP62 kit? I ask as there's a fair number of those floating around and that'd be a bit easier to source pictures.

[BlownMX5]

I need top down pics of the area behind the headlight for a NA MP62 Hotside setup. I have to make sure the blower clears the box and MAF.

I have a '94 hotside and can take some pictures tonight if you like.

[99mx5]

Id love to have pics BlownMX5.

I need a top-down view of the area behind the drivers side headlight area next to the blower and centered over the frame rail. This pic basically shows how far the blower outlet is hanging over the frame rail in that area. If you can place a tape measure from the fender edge to the blower, that would be great.

[BlownMX5]

Id love to have pics BlownMX5.

Should be no problem!

[99mx5]

Thanks for the pics BlownMX5! I will be redesigning the NA cold air box based on the hotside kit clearances and will easily fit a coldside kit. Thanks for the good idea beatle. Its better to have another system to compare to. Both of those examples show me that I have plenty of room.:yes:

I will be getting an NA soon to play with. I will start a new thread for it.


I also have another batch of NB boxes in the works. :cool:

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

We also have a NA 1990 to test with.

[socal pat]

Thanks for the pics BlownMX5! I will be redesigning the NA cold air box based on the hotside kit clearances and will easily fit a coldside kit. Thanks for the good idea beatle. Its better to have another system to compare to. Both of those examples show me that I have plenty of room.:yes:

I will be getting an NA soon to play with. I will start a new thread for it.


I also have another batch of NB boxes in the works. :cool:

Great! My hand is already in my pocket. I'll be in for one most likely.

[beatle]

Cannot wait! With the bigger pulley, it screams for colder air (literally). ;)

[99mx5]

Hey everyone!

Next batch of NB CAI boxes are in! I'm making them today. I have 18 boxes total with 4 of them already spoken for.

These boxes are made of a different alloy and are twice as thick as the last batch and are much harder to make. Ive done all I can to try to keep costs down, but due to increased fabrication and material costs and labor, the price of the boxes have gone up to $18 for a total of $98 per box.

First come, first serve. :)


For the NA crowd, The NA CAI design is well underway with a few details to sort out before production begins. There may be three NA box designs, one for the 90-93 MAF, one for the 94-97 MAF and a design without a MAF bracket for those with remotely mounted MAFs.

[beatle]

Can't wait! Hoping the most common 94-97 w/MAF will be first. ;)

[99mx5]

Update:
7 NB boxes left.

The 94-97 will be the first NA box available. :)

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

it will be real soon where the 90-93 will be the most popular. ;)

[gludlow]

You have PM; decided to get the CAI kit to go along with my timing card $2 upgrade and new rear-end.

It'll be like having a whole new car come spring :-)

Any tuning to be done after installing the CAI?

[99mx5]

Just a clarification, the price is for the insulated box only. Depending on your particular setup, you might need the new EGR bracket, air filter and longer flex hose.

[gludlow]

Just a clarification, the price is for the insulated box only. Depending on your particular setup, you might need the new EGR bracket, air filter and longer flex hose.

Yea, after I PM'ed you, I saw your first posts. Whatever it takes I'm committed to the upgrade :-) I got my coldside not too long ago, it has the conical filter.

Maybe Tom can chime in if I need the new EGR bracket or not?

Flex hose I can get about any auto parts store, right?

[99mx5]

6 boxes left :)

[Mark]

The 94-97 will be the first NA box available. :)

Happy to be a test mule for the 94-97 if you need one ;)

[99mx5]

5 Boxes left... :)

[99mx5]

Recent shop pic. :)

[FormerDatsun510Man]

Looks great!

[99mx5]

Test fitting the boxes. Everything looks good and installation is not much more difficult than the first batch.

[daver]

I got a CAI kit with my FFS a few months ago. The air intake temp sensor (i think that's what it is) is just kind of threaded under the edge and sitting loose within the enclosed space.

Would it be possible to cut or drill a hole of the appropriate diameter and have the sensor probe mounted in a nicer manner? IIRC, it just pressed into a cavity in the stock intake box.

[99mx5]

I recommend to zip-tie it to the wiring by the headlamp inside the box. That way it is next to the hole where the fresh air comes in. The temp sensor wire is routed under the power steering reservoir and through the cutout in the lower edge of the air box. If you wanted, you could pull the rubber grommet from the stock box and make a hole in your airbox and place your temp sensor in the hole with the grommet.

[gludlow]

Would it be possible to powder coat the CAI box? Has anyone tried it?

[FormerDatsun510Man]

I'm sure it probably would be. Another possibility would be to get it anodized.

Bill

[gludlow]

That could be very cool... I finally found a VVT NB valve cover to power coat, I was thinking about having this done the same color at the same time. I'll take it to my local powder coating place and talk with them about it.

If I go through with it, I'll post pictures. It wouldn't be until Feb. though.

[99mx5]

I couldn't find any local place to anodize the boxes. I did find a local shop that does powder coating. I'll check and see what the cost would be and maybe ad it as an option in the future.

BTW, 3 boxes left...

[99mx5]

Two boxes left...

[liddown]

Now only one left.... You have mail ;-)

[99mx5]

Thank you very much! :)

[JTod]

Sent you a PM.

[JTod]

Ari,

Your PM box is full...

[99mx5]

Second batch all gone! :)
Thank you all!

On to batch #3 of 99-05 CAI and prototypes of 90-93 and 94-97. :)

[99mx5]

OK, I have 5 boxes available in batch #3 for 99-05 CAI. First come, first served. :)

[gludlow]

Got my cold air box installed! :) Fit and finish were perfect. If you are on the fence about this... buy it, you won't regret it.

[99mx5]

Thanks for the comments! :) I'm glad you like it.

[BushWhacker]

Fit and finish is very nice. A must have add-on for the FFS kit. The intake tube no longer gets in the way when I change the oil filter too.

[bogey]

Can we get some finished photos of the NA cold air box?

[99mx5]

Finished pics of the prototypes. These were hand cut, production boxes will be water jet cut.

[ncelk]

OK all, I am going to go ahead and re-route the air filter from the passenger side where it is now, to use this cold air box that I ordered quite a while ago:biggrin:

But this is my main question-to those that have had it for a while: the engine valve cover gets super hot! Are you guys having any problems with the plastic on the flex tube where it comes in contact with the engine valve cover? This really concerns me. Give some feedback guys. I sometimes drive this car for road trips 5-6 hours at a stretch. I certainly don't need a mess of the flex tube causing problems due to heat.

[ncelk]

Well, I did the re route and cold air box about 2 weeks ago and have driven it about 300 miles or so.

Ran a scan gauge and found that the IAT is about 10-30 degs above ambient when moving and about 40-50 degs above ambient when stopped.

This sounds somewhat higher than I had anticipated, but am curious what you guys are seeing.

Also, the IAT probe was placed in a grommet and placed in a hole on the back side of the box (rear), so I don't know if this is affecting it all, since it is back near the rear of the box.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

That's weird. We did tests and found the temps in the box 1-2 above outside ambiant and at the TB only 1-2 above that. Only time it was higher in the box was when stopped in the sun.

[ncelk]

That is why I wondered if it is where I placed the IAT probe. It is at the back of the box away from where the fresh air is coming in. It was just a cleaner install there. Ran the Scan gauge for 2 days to verify the data. The lowest I ever saw it was 10 degs over ambient with extended highway driving.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Should still read correct, I would guess?

[99mx5]

When I conducted temperature tests, I placed the temperature probe inside the box at the filter and at the throttle body. I ran the car for over a year with the intake hose over the engine without any problems. When I raced, I used a DEI intake hose wrap on the hose to protect it from the heat.

[99mx5]

I currently have five 99-05 CAI boxes and two 94-97 CAI boxes available. 90-93 is also available for order as I have to get them cut.

I'm currently checking on powder coating costs. I will know how much later today.

[99mx5]

I just spoke with the shop and powder coating is available for an additional $25

[99mx5]

One 94-97 box left.

I'll post pics of the powder coated boxes later.

[99mx5]

Pics of satin black 94-97 CAI box.

[imarcr2]

Hello,

I am fighting detonation and knock on my 94 hotside(BRP 6 rib, manual tensioner). If your airbox will work with my kit, I will take the last of your Cold Air Boxes.

Thanks, Bill

PS, you have my info on file...I bought one of your boxes for my 99 CS.

[99mx5]

Last box is pending. You have PM.

[99mx5]

The last 94-97 CAI box is sold.
There are five 99-05 CAI boxes available.

[elduce]

The last 94-97 CAI box is sold.
There are five 99-05 CAI boxes available.

How durable is the powder coating - I'm interested in a matt black coated box for a '99, but I don't want it to be matt black with bright silver scratches after a few months of sitting under the hood!

Assuming it's durable, how much would it be including the coating and shipping to Manhatten, NY?

[99mx5]

The powder coating is very durable. The satin finish looks a lot the blower, but a little smoother.

PMed.

[elduce]

The powder coating is very durable. The satin finish looks a lot the blower, but a little smoother.

PMed.

Thanks, I just pm'ed you but your inbox is full. I think if you clear it out you should receive the pm. :)

[99mx5]

PMs cleared. :)

[ThomS]

Any more kits available?

[99mx5]

There are five 99-05 CAI boxes available.

[ThomS]

Sold one more Ari. Thanks. can't wait to get it and put it in. might not wait for winter project.

[94Roadstarr]

Ari,

I just purchased a coldside kit for my 94 NA. How long before you can have a box ready for me?

John Starr

[99mx5]

I will be making a batch of 94-97 CAI boxes soon.

[Rudolf]

Have you considered making a box for this kind of intake ?

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/rudolf_2007/_DSC0351-2.jpg

Erik

[99mx5]

I have only made boxes to fit in the factory location where there is factory air ducting. I haven't considered other locations due to the ducted airflow and the relocation of other components.

[99mx5]

I currently have four 99-05 and five 94-97 CAI boxes.

[94Roadstarr]

Ari,

I'll take one for my '94. Let me know how you want to proceed. You can reach me at the address below.

John
johnwstarr@hotmail.com

[99mx5]

Now down to three 99-05 and four 94-97 CAI boxes. :)

[ThomS]

WOn't be long and you will be making another batch Ari

[99mx5]

You are right! now down to Three 94-97 CAI boxes :)

[imarcr2]

Hello,

I will take an airbox for my 94.

my email is imarcr2@sbcglobal.net

[99mx5]

All boxes for the following customers are boxed and will ship tomorrow:
-Starr
-Hennessy
-Cowles
-Garaas

Thank you for your purchase! :)

Only two 94-97 and three 99-05 boxes are left.

[imarcr2]

Hi Ari,

Did you get my payment?

[99mx5]

Hi Bill, I sure did. Your box shipped today! Fedex tracking sent to your email.
Thanks again!


Now one 94-97 CAI box left and three 99-05 CAI boxes available. :)

[imarcr2]

Thanks Ari

[jsinnard]

Ari,

Sent you a PM for one of the boxes, EGR brackets and some oterh questions.

Jason

[slidder]

Do you have a box available for the 99-05?

[99mx5]

I have two boxes left. You have PM.

[99mx5]

One 99-05 and one 94-97 CAI box left.

[99mx5]

Last 94-97 CAI box is sold.
One 99-05 CAI box left! :)

[99mx5]

All gone! :biggrin: Thanks!

[socal pat]

I'm sure this is preaching to the choir and maybe a bit late, but it's starting to warm up here and I thought I'd just say that my intake temps are looking nice! Ambient at slow cruise and even a bit lower at 45mph+. Thanks ARI!!

[99mx5]

:cool: Thanks Pat!

I found the temps to be lower at the track but appreciated it even more when I was able to run AC in traffic without intake temps raising.

[FormerDatsun510Man]

I just dynoed 230rwhp on a Dynojet running Ari's CAI... so I know it performs quite well :)

[spitfiremkiii]

Are there any more 97 CAI boxes in the works? I seem to have missed the first round :(

[99mx5]

A new batch is in the works. :)

[99mx5]

I have two 99-05 boxes and eight 94-97 boxes available.

[spitfiremkiii]

Installing the CAI in the 97M looks straight forward but are there any "gotch-ya." Like, I think i will have to move the cruise-control to install the CAI box. I'm guessing the corrugated hose will be long enough and there is enough room to route the hose over the engine. Did anybody find any moulded hoses and elbows, I did see some references but no real conclusion, like get your hose here. Also anybody know what part number the K & N filter on the coldside kits for a 1.8s is? Am I missing anything?

Thanks

Graham

[99mx5]

I have not seen the cruise control for the 94-97. The corrugated hose should be long enough to reach the CAI. You should already have the correct air filter included in your kit to mount in the CAI box. All of the current FFS kits should have the same air filter.
The only "gotcha" I can think of is that the plastic trim on the hood above the CAI has to be removed so that if doesn't interfere with the lid of the CAI box. You should have the revised install instructions for it.

[99mx5]

Two 99-05 boxes, one black 94-97, and seven uncoated 94-97 cold air boxes left

[liddown]

Ari,

Well after a long wait (on my part) the 01 now has it cold air box with a DDMWorks crossover pipe... All I can say is THANKS!

IAT has never been this close to ambient, and the performance increase due to lower IAT's is amazing. Thanks again for a great product, and great craftmanship....

WooHoo!

[FormerDatsun510Man]

I think that Ari's CAI should be standard on the kit. It makes such a difference to have ambient air coming into the supercharger under ALL conditions.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

And I think Ari should send them to me for free so I can include them. :)

[Rdrcr]

And I think Ari should send them to me for free so I can include them. :)

And then retro-fit all previous kits. :)

Mike

[bogey]

What is the current price on the cold air box for a 96?

Also, what parts are needed to rotate the EGR valve out of the way for clearance? I have an early kit.

[99mx5]

You would need a new EGR bracket to relocate the EGR. I have a black box I'll make you a deal on. You have PM

[ncelk]

Dumb question, I was looking at the picture of this on tbe first page.

Where is the vent hose go to from the engine valve cover?

Is it in the flex tube or is it routed elsewhere?

Just curious as to where everyone was placing this.

It looks like it is routed back to something on the pic, but I have no idea what.

Thanks!

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

The vent tube on the exhaust side of the CAM cover goes to the barb on the 3" aluminum tube connected to the MAF. Go to the instructions forum and download the instructions revisions.

[germain]

I am contemplating purchasing the FFS CS for my 2002 SE - The CABox I have seen so far on the site (at least what I have been able to find) does not agree with my vision; could somebody send me pictures of the latest iteration of the CABox and full CAI available for the system.

Thanks

Germain

[JTod]

Guess this forum doesn't see a lot of action...

Sent you a PM a couple weeks ago Ari...

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Sorry guys. I've been on vacation for the last two weeks. I'll get a photo up tomorrow.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Pictures of CAI. The car is a 1990, the CAI is for a 94-97 so I can adapt the MAF instead of the AFM. Basically, they look the same or very similar for all model years.

[germain]

Thank you Tom,

As you know, I am very much in favor of your supercharger but I want to work on the CAI. Could you please tell me if there is enough room for a 90* silicone elbow at the end of the supercharger unit. Could you also please tell me what the ID of the pipe is. How far from the firewall is the end of the supercharger unit. I would presume that this might depend on the year of the car. I am working on something and if successful, I will provide you with my results.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Yes. As the hose makes a 90* so will an elbow even easier. Some have used a "Cobra" 90 and it occupies even less space. The ID of the hose is 3".

Space depends on model year. Also need to know if yu mean from the back of the TB or the back of the manifold to the firewall?

[99mx5]

Sorry for the delay, I was also on vacation. :)

I have made only one silicone hose for the CAI. I sold it to Drew. I used a cobra-head elbow at the throttle body, but it interfered with the old EGR bracket (I removed my EGR at the time.) and then we designed a new one so that the flex hose can be routed over the engine. A 90 degree elbow can fit but you will have to trim one end so that it is close to the TB. I connected it to an aluminum elbow then to a long-leg 45 degree silicone elbow and a straight silicone tube to the MAF.

The trick is to cut the aluminum 45 degree elbow so that it connects to the TB elbow and rests on top of the valve cover. When you shorten the aluminum elbow a section can be used to join the 45 deg silicone elbow to the silicone straight hose.

Hope this helps.
-Ari

JTod, you have a PM.