Banshee
12-26-2006, 10:54 AM
I posted this on the miata.net forum, but I felt that it was worth it to post here also.
Quick background:
I have one of the first MP62 coldside setup when it was sold by BRP. On my 01, it came with the ELF, 95/65mm pulley and no extra injector. With this setup, I was only able to make ~150whp with lots of ping.
I then added water injection, J&S ultrasafeguard, and increase the pulley to 100mm. I was able to get ~170whp, but still had to retard timing after 7psi to avoid ping.
I then went up to a 105mm pulley, added alcohol to the water injection, and was able to run that with a little more timing retard.
Then Tom as FFS came out with the PC-Pro. I couldn't decide whether I wanted to upgrade, or wait till the revised ELF comes out. But decided to bite the bullet and plunk down money for the PC-pro as it had great first reviews.
Tom shipped it the same day that it was ordered. I bought it without the wiring harness as I'm a cheap bastard and the extra $200 could be use for other upgrade (bad mistake). When it arrived 2 days later, I quickly hacked up my wiring harness and install the thing. Well, I was in too much of a rush and crossed a couple of wires, the car missfired badly. After I straighten that out, the car still ran like crap. It would add fuel at idle and was very erratic.
After talking to Tom (at 11pm on a Saturday night), it was decided that I had the wrong map, so he contacted MOSS and had them drop ship me a programming module (no charge to me). Keep in mind that this module is not even for sale to the general public. Well, after reprogramming the thing, the car still ran like "crap." It was decided at this point that I had a malfunctioning PC pro. Whether it was like that from the factory, or because of my initial cross wiring, I don't know. But Tom graciously sent me another one, this time prewired to a $200 wiring harness. Even though I didn't pay for the wiring harness, Tom insisted on giving me one free of charge to eliminate any possibility of miss wiring again.
Well, it arrived a few days later, hook up was a breeze, and now the car runs beautifully. Off boost, the car runs like stock, transition into boost is seamless. And it pulls hard all the way to redline. Also, I was able to run the car without any timing retard. There's just no ping like there was before.
I will dyno it shortly, but as of right now, I'm am very happy with the PC pro, and especially with the service that FFS has provided. Keep in mind that the only money I ever spend directly with FFS was for a pulley or two ($120 total) and the PC pro. I bought my kit from BRP. And yet Tom still gave me excellent service. In fact, by not charging me for the wiring harness, I think overall, I cost him money.
Anyways, as usual, no affiliation, just a very happy customer.
Quick background:
I have one of the first MP62 coldside setup when it was sold by BRP. On my 01, it came with the ELF, 95/65mm pulley and no extra injector. With this setup, I was only able to make ~150whp with lots of ping.
I then added water injection, J&S ultrasafeguard, and increase the pulley to 100mm. I was able to get ~170whp, but still had to retard timing after 7psi to avoid ping.
I then went up to a 105mm pulley, added alcohol to the water injection, and was able to run that with a little more timing retard.
Then Tom as FFS came out with the PC-Pro. I couldn't decide whether I wanted to upgrade, or wait till the revised ELF comes out. But decided to bite the bullet and plunk down money for the PC-pro as it had great first reviews.
Tom shipped it the same day that it was ordered. I bought it without the wiring harness as I'm a cheap bastard and the extra $200 could be use for other upgrade (bad mistake). When it arrived 2 days later, I quickly hacked up my wiring harness and install the thing. Well, I was in too much of a rush and crossed a couple of wires, the car missfired badly. After I straighten that out, the car still ran like crap. It would add fuel at idle and was very erratic.
After talking to Tom (at 11pm on a Saturday night), it was decided that I had the wrong map, so he contacted MOSS and had them drop ship me a programming module (no charge to me). Keep in mind that this module is not even for sale to the general public. Well, after reprogramming the thing, the car still ran like "crap." It was decided at this point that I had a malfunctioning PC pro. Whether it was like that from the factory, or because of my initial cross wiring, I don't know. But Tom graciously sent me another one, this time prewired to a $200 wiring harness. Even though I didn't pay for the wiring harness, Tom insisted on giving me one free of charge to eliminate any possibility of miss wiring again.
Well, it arrived a few days later, hook up was a breeze, and now the car runs beautifully. Off boost, the car runs like stock, transition into boost is seamless. And it pulls hard all the way to redline. Also, I was able to run the car without any timing retard. There's just no ping like there was before.
I will dyno it shortly, but as of right now, I'm am very happy with the PC pro, and especially with the service that FFS has provided. Keep in mind that the only money I ever spend directly with FFS was for a pulley or two ($120 total) and the PC pro. I bought my kit from BRP. And yet Tom still gave me excellent service. In fact, by not charging me for the wiring harness, I think overall, I cost him money.
Anyways, as usual, no affiliation, just a very happy customer.