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mageep
01-16-2007, 02:13 PM
Pardon my ignorance...
What the hell is BTB an abbreviation for?? :surrender:
Tom @ Fast Forward
01-16-2007, 02:49 PM
You, sir, are forced to go through the living hell I went through two years ago. :) We should probably make a sticky list in the superchargers forum of abbreviations. If you think of more, ask and I will update this list or make a permanent one.
AIC - Additional Injector Controller
BTB - Big Throttle Body
SS - Split Second
IAC - Idle Air Control
VDB - Vacuum Distribution Block
Kyp J
01-16-2007, 07:52 PM
TB, STB, TBA, IM, EGR (every body knows that along with PCV) VICS, VTCS and about a hundred I forgot. Starting in the middle of the BRP coldside threads about drove me nuts. Somewhere I made a list on a tablet with about 50 pages of notes. I will try to find it.
jikemenkins
01-19-2007, 06:54 PM
well gee guys dont leave out V-TEC . . . .
you FI'd guys running FFSC coldside SC's should be puttin the hurt on a few VTEC's every once in a while.:biggrin:
Tom @ Fast Forward
01-19-2007, 07:08 PM
Well, when summertime comes around, it is easy to spank most WRX's. The owners manual specifies 93 octane MINIMUM. On our 91, they tend to ping pretty bad when the weather warms and most simply drive easy and pray for cooler weather. ;)
jikemenkins
01-20-2007, 06:12 AM
I assume the WRX and STI have a knock sensor and are capable of pulling timing for lower octain fuel? I can think of about a dozen (no lie) wrx and sti running around where i am, sporting fart cannons and 18 inch wheels. I wouldnt be suprised if the driver/owners are pumping 87 to save a few bucks.
Tom @ Fast Forward
01-20-2007, 07:30 AM
I'm sure it has a knock sensor and can pull timing. However, there is only so much timing you can pull and there is only so much help timing can provide. All I do know is that his WRX is very unhappy in Arizona in the summer.
mageep
01-20-2007, 01:46 PM
Well, clearly I am first and foremost I am a Miata guy (on my third one now), but that said, I am totally blown away at the potential of the STi.
As Chip knows, we have (had, since he's apparently hung up his shoes) a guy locally that has his 04 STi creating a legitimate 540+ whp @ 32psi -- yes, 32--- when he can run 104-110 octane. :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
When forced to run pump-grade 91, I understand he's capped at 21-24 psi and just over 400 whp, depending on the ambient. When I can find his posted dyno, I'll share it. It's STUPID. It gained 300 hp within 1000 rpm.
The only reason I yanked this :offtopic: was because as ricey as they can be, those vehicles are capable of some SERIOUS power. I drove it myself, and it was truly other-worldly.
Tom @ Fast Forward
01-20-2007, 06:03 PM
I held a dyno day for the local Sahauro Miata Club. Lots of fun and lots of club members showed up. One MazdaSpeed Miata with a Bell down pipe turned 200/200. Nice.
When I go there this morning there was a late model Firebird on the dyno. It had a 91mm turbo on it. The turbo housing was the size of one of my 225/50-15 wheels. :) I will try to post a picture later. Anyhow, after a little tuning, he turned 883WHP and 903WTq. He runs huge drag radials on the street just so he can leave a stop sign. :)
Mathrips
01-20-2007, 06:49 PM
Ouch! If you lined up next to him you would have to bank on him being unable to go a quarter mile without running out of gas.
Tom @ Fast Forward
01-20-2007, 07:21 PM
I told him I could probably beat him in a 1/4 mile run as he would still be at the lights trying to get traction when I crossed the line.
BTW, he was running 91 octane Arizona pump gas. I could hardly believe it. Of course, he was also running 8.5:1 pistons. That helped. :driving:
Dr Evol
01-21-2007, 07:24 AM
"As Chip knows, we have (had, since he's apparently hung up his shoes) a guy locally that has his 04 STi creating a legitimate 540+ whp @ 32psi -- yes, 32--- when he can run 104-110 octane. :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: "
Yep, that STi was serious horsepower. It made my modified Evo feel like it had the acceleration of a Vega after I rode with him a few times during autocross. It didn't hurt that he also has 275 series Kumho 710 sticking out of his wheelwells.
mageep
01-21-2007, 01:21 PM
[I] It didn't hurt that he also has 275 series Kumho 710 sticking out of his wheelwells.
Actually 285's with the ability to spin them all 4 at will, and the ability ot move up to 315... :devil2:
rlyneis
03-21-2007, 09:08 PM
Tom, Forgot to mention that I also have a WRX. and believe me, never experienced the problems mentioned, even in last summers crazy temperatures!!
I'm sure it has a knock sensor and can pull timing. However, there is only so much timing you can pull and there is only so much help timing can provide. All I do know is that his WRX is very unhappy in Arizona in the summer.
Tom @ Fast Forward
03-21-2007, 10:05 PM
Pop on over in July/August in our 115F heat and 91 fuel. We'll show you the difference. ;) Chuck's 99 hotside ran well in CA heat and fuel. Then he moved here.
rlyneis
03-22-2007, 06:16 PM
Thanks, but I would rather not. (what is wrong with you people?)
chuckerants
03-22-2007, 06:26 PM
Thanks, but I would rather not. (what is wrong with you people?)
Don't mind us. We get this way after watching people spontaneously combust as they walk down the street. :)
Tom @ Fast Forward
03-22-2007, 07:17 PM
It's a dry heat.
I don't know what that means but people over here say it all the time like it is supposed to make 115-120F not feel as bad.
The airport shuts down at 122F. Here is something I found.
"I live in Mesa, Az (outside Phoenix) and the weather can get pretty brutal in the summers.
It isn't unusual to go 3 or 4 weeks with triple digit temps in the summertime. One summer it go so hot they had to close Sky Harbor Intl Airport. The temperature hit 122F and the asphalt runways began getting too soft to allow airplanes to land or take off."
red-in-la
03-22-2007, 07:30 PM
It's a dry heat.
It isn't unusual to go 3 or 4 weeks with triple digit temps in the summertime. One summer it go so hot they had to close Sky Harbor Intl Airport. The temperature hit 122F and the asphalt runways began getting too soft to allow airplanes to land or take off."
lol... yeah, it a "dry" heat alright :nuke: Your sweat is the equivalent of the your 5th injector :D trying to keep u cool..... to no avail :censored:
BTW, the airport was shut down because there were no performance charts for the airliners at that temperature. No passengers wanted to volunteer to be guinee pigs to see if their airplane could take off or not and if it could keep going on one engine. It's always nice when the airplane will take you back to the airport in an emergency than when it just takes you to the scene of the crash. :oops:
BlownMX5
03-22-2007, 10:59 PM
Well, I'd rather have 115 and dry than 90 and 98% humidity every time. I lived in Tulsa for four summer months in '94 (I'm a SoCal native), I've never been so hot in my entire life and it never got over about 93. It was the first and only time in my life that I quit after nine holes of golf. I couldn't grip the club and there was no way to get my hands dry. The people I was playing with (Tulsa locals) thought I was crazy and couldn't understand what was wrong with me, proof that you do indeed "get used to it" after a while. Still, I've played golf in Vegas at 110+ and as long as you have some water and a little shade, it's not that bad. Evaporative cooling really does work!
Pat.
chuckerants
03-22-2007, 11:11 PM
I was told by Mike @ Mike's Place that you don't get to be "real" Arizonan until you stop complaining about the heat. I guess I'll always be a damn Kalifornican then. LOL
Tom @ Fast Forward
03-23-2007, 02:27 AM
Pat,
I grew up in St. Louis with 95F/95% summers. I'll take the AZ 115F/5% summers anytime.
Kyp J
03-23-2007, 08:49 AM
Pat,
I grew up in St. Louis with 95F/95% summers. I'll take the AZ 115F/5% summers anytime.
Especially since you also have the 33*/95% winter days that chill you through your clothes in Mo. for several months.
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