Oil Relocation kit.

[ThomS]

Well I am about ready to order my oil relocation kit for my 02 and I think I have set on the Thompson Kit. What do you guys think about that kit?

Also are the hose that go from location where the oil filter was to where the new spot will be, (just behind the pasenger headlight) long enough or do I have to but longer hoses?

[zoom2xtn]

Thompson seems to get high marks on all the boards. Trans-Dapt Model 1158 is INEXPENSIVE. I do not know if it is cheap or high quality. 1258 is a dual filter model. Interesting.
http://www.tdperformance.com/TransDapt.html
Check it out. Whichever you get, let us know what you think after it's in.

[kompressorz]

Thompson seems to get high marks on all the boards. Trans-Dapt Model 1158 is INEXPENSIVE. I do not know if it is cheap or high quality. 1258 is a dual filter model. Interesting.
http://www.tdperformance.com/TransDapt.html
Check it out. Whichever you get, let us know what you think after it's in.


I have tried 2 of them, the first one was leaking ( porous aluminum) and the second one was having bad treads ( hose would not fit in )

they are cheap crap. I would go with the Thompson.

[chuckerants]

I have tried 2 of them, the first one was leaking ( porous aluminum) and the second one was having bad treads ( hose would not fit in )

they are cheap crap. I would go with the Thompson.

I concur. The Trans Dapt I ordered from Summit was of such "iffy" quality that I sent it back after I received it.

[Scuba Steve]

I would recommend not installing one, it is just another potential point of failure. I purchased a thompson for my FMII kit because the modified intake manifold made it impossible to reach the oil filter from the top. When I installed it, the oil lines had too much potential to rub on the ABS lines. I chose to not install it and gave to a friend.

I now just remove the Intake manifold brace (3 bolts) to reach the oil filter. Another option is to remove the front passenger tire and reach it from underneath. I really don't find this to be a big problem.

On my Hostside and stock miata, I can still reach it from the top.

[dazooom]

I've had the Thompson kit on mine now for over 5 years! Never a problem. Tom, the hoses in the kit will fit your car just fine..:yes:

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

I have had the Moss relocation kit with the intercooler on mine since 2003. No problems here either.

[ThomS]

I've had the Thompson kit on mine now for over 5 years! Never a problem. Tom, the hoses in the kit will fit your car just fine..:yes:

Thanks for the answer, I needed to know if the hoses would fit.

Have you or Tom installed your relocation kit after the SC was installed or before? I gues what I am looking for is how tough will this install be since there is not a lot of room to get to the oil filter now so putting on the adapter is going to be a lot harder. Any suggestions on install?

[ThomS]

I would recommend not installing one, it is just another potential point of failure. I purchased a thompson for my FMII kit because the modified intake manifold made it impossible to reach the oil filter from the top. When I installed it, the oil lines had too much potential to rub on the ABS lines. I chose to not install it and gave to a friend.

I now just remove the Intake manifold brace (3 bolts) to reach the oil filter. Another option is to remove the front passenger tire and reach it from underneath. I really don't find this to be a big problem.

On my Hostside and stock miata, I can still reach it from the top.

Steve I would agree with you normally, but I really have a tough time reaching my oil filter now with the SC in and the tire off already. But you are right just another thing to go wrong or to maintain. Thanks for your opion really.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Mine was before. I did it back when I had the hotside kit.

[Kyp J]

I think the Thompson is great. I put mine in simultaneously with the Coldside install and then re did it when I re installed the engine. It is tough to get to for the install no matter how you do it. The manifold and the adapter/hoses all interfere with each other and the space to run the hoses is narrow between the fender well and manifold. I changed routing the second time and it is a little better. I have the cheap hoses which screw directly into the adapter. They are very stiff and threading them in with the adapter installed is hard. On the other hand, if you put on the hoses to the adapter first then try turning the adapter on it is worse.:hammer: (What happened to the brick wall?)

I would think about calling Thompson and finding out if the fancy hoses that use ANC fittings on both ends might make it easier since I think they spin on the hose as you tighten them. (avoiding twisting the entire hose around under there). Get the right size short open end wrench.

I don't think the risk of catastrophic leak is that great to pass up the easy access to the oil filter. Hotside people don't know the pain.:nopity:

[Kyp J]

Another thing: The hoses don't allow much in the way of flexibility and I had to position the filter housing part of the kit is a slightly different spot due to the constriction of hose routing. In other words, I couldn't use the screw holes that preexist. I drilled holes where it would fit and used sheet metal screws.

[dazooom]

Mine was before...and I have a H/S, vice C/S.

[zoom2xtn]

Thanks for the info on the Trans-Dapt. I've never seen one and wanted to know if it was any good.Obviously, it is cheap junk. As I said, I've heard nothing but good things about the Thompson. Everyone has so much money now* that quality really sells. Why not get the best if you can afford it?

Lee

* well, maybe before todays market crash!!!

[ThomS]

Kyp J Thanks for all your advise, all really good thoughts. Do you t hink I should take it where I can use a lift, will that make it any easier ?



I think the Thompson is great. I put mine in simultaneously with the Coldside install and then re did it when I re installed the engine. It is tough to get to for the install no matter how you do it. The manifold and the adapter/hoses all interfere with each other and the space to run the hoses is narrow between the fender well and manifold. I changed routing the second time and it is a little better. I have the cheap hoses which screw directly into the adapter. They are very stiff and threading them in with the adapter installed is hard. On the other hand, if you put on the hoses to the adapter first then try turning the adapter on it is worse.:hammer: (What happened to the brick wall?)

I would think about calling Thompson and finding out if the fancy hoses that use ANC fittings on both ends might make it easier since I think they spin on the hose as you tighten them. (avoiding twisting the entire hose around under there). Get the right size short open end wrench.

I don't think the risk of catastrophic leak is that great to pass up the easy access to the oil filter. Hotside people don't know the pain.:nopity:

[Kyp J]

Kyp J Thanks for all your advise, all really good thoughts. Do you t hink I should take it where I can use a lift, will that make it any easier ?

I wish I have had the luxury of using a lift in my memory. I worked at a gas station for a short time just out of high school but it was so long ago I forgot what it was like. I use jack stands If I need to take off the shroud which seems like always. Getting up and down for tools I forgot is good exercise.

[bogey]

I use Rhino Ramps for nearly all work on the car. Much easier and safer than jack stands. Even if I do not intend on working undeneath, it raised the car enough to bring it to a more comfortable height. The Rhino ramps are worth every penny.

I just recently installed an oil temp sender, which required removing the belly pan and air filter. Once there, I could reach up and access the oil filter area. I know it is tight, but it it a one time install. I would think the adapter could be threaded on half a turn at a time with the hoses attached.

I have considered adding a remote filter attached the the rail in front of the passenger wheel. I do not have any clearance to bring the oil filter to the engine bay becase the intake manaifold is pretty close to the body. I am curious if there is more clearance on an NB.

[Kyp J]

I use Rhino Ramps for nearly all work on the car. Much easier and safer than jack stands. Even if I do not intend on working undeneath, it raised the car enough to bring it to a more comfortable height. The Rhino ramps are worth every penny.

I just recently installed an oil temp sender, which required removing the belly pan and air filter. Once there, I could reach up and access the oil filter area. I know it is tight, but it it a one time install. I would think the adapter could be threaded on half a turn at a time with the hoses attached.

I have considered adding a remote filter attached the the rail in front of the passenger wheel. I do not have any clearance to bring the oil filter to the engine bay becase the intake manaifold is pretty close to the body. I am curious if there is more clearance on an NB.

I have seen someone's post somewhere (Mnet or here) that put it inside the area behind the fog light on the passenger side. It was a different kit than Thompson. Daz on Mnet put a cooler in that spot which looked good.

One advantage of the Thompson when vertical, you don't drip any oil on a filter change. Also, they have a place for an oil temp sender on the filter holder thing. I had to upgrade for that but they are standard now.

[Kyp J]

I took too long trying to add a comment on the previous post.

Using ramps doesn't allow you to remove the passenger side wheel which gets in the way of some projects in that area. I aways have problems getting ramps to stay when trying to drive up on them too. If you use jack stands carefully they are safe IMO. You can make mistakes if not careful with placement and hight settings.

[Racer X]

I put my Thompson on prior to my cold side kit. When I did it I put the rear end on ramps and jack stands in the front. More room to work under the car this way. I do not have ABS, so the hose length was not an issue. The kit has been on about a year and I have no regrets. Oil change is clean and easy. Good http://www.fastforwardsuperchargers.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif
;)luck.;)

[chuckerants]

I took too long trying to add a comment on the previous post.

Using ramps doesn't allow you to remove the passenger side wheel which gets in the way of some projects in that area. I aways have problems getting ramps to stay when trying to drive up on them too. If you use jack stands carefully they are safe IMO. You can make mistakes if not careful with placement and hight settings.

I use a flattened box (cardboard), but a section of carpet does the same thing in holding the ramps in place using the weight of the car.

[Kyp J]

I use a flattened box (cardboard), but a section of carpet does the same thing in holding the ramps in place using the weight of the car.

Good idea. Next time I will change the oil in the living room.

[chuckerants]

Good idea. Next time I will change the oil in the living room.

lol

I'd be sleeping in the garage if I tried that.

[ThomS]

Come on guys who is in charge? Who is the BOSS?:boxing_smiley:

[chuckerants]

Come on guys who is in charge? Who is the BOSS?:boxing_smiley:

The wife of course. :)

[99mx5]

+500 for Chuck ;) Of course we're the boss when they aren't around :)

[Wayne-n-Fla]

Come on guys who is in charge? Who is the BOSS?:boxing_smiley:

An old saying goes " He who fights with wife during day gets no peace/piece at night

[ThomS]

LOL. Both you guys have that right....



The wife of course. :)

An old saying goes " He who fights with wife during day gets no peace/piece at night

[Mark]

I've got a quick question for those that have the Cool-Tek relocation kit from Moss. Am I correct when I look at the picture in the catalog and assume that you take the hoses supplied and cut them to the length you want when you've got everything located where you want it?

And if so, is there anything stopping someone from buy longer hoses to try different places for mounting? I'm gathering all the ancillary stuff I want to do when I install my coldside soon. Changing oil is a big concern and it just seems that no one has any real solutions for a 95. I've got the M-Edition so the passenger side of the engine compartment is going to be tight on space.

Anyone here with a 94-97/ABS/Coldside have pictures of an installed oil filter relocation?

Mark.

[ThomS]

Well I got the oil filter re-location kit installed on the 05 MSM and the install went well other then one of the hoses took a long time to get it installed. But it is going to save me lots of time on the next oil change. But I found out that I did not have a ton of room to work with and that is why it took so long to get the one hose installed. So installing this kit from Thompson on the 02 W/FFS SC already in the car is going to be very very hard with out a lift. There is no room to work with, with the SC in the car. But I will get it some how. Thanks to all for you help.

[Kyp J]

Well I got the oil filter re-location kit installed on the 05 MSM and the install went well other then one of the hoses took a long time to get it installed. But it is going to save me lots of time on the next oil change. But I found out that I did not have a ton of room to work with and that is why it took so long to get the one hose installed. So installing this kit from Thompson on the 02 W/FFS SC already in the car is going to be very very hard with out a lift. There is no room to work with, with the SC in the car. But I will get it some how. Thanks to all for you help.

It also will cause problems trying to install the intake manifold with the relocation kit already installed. In other words, they get in each others way. I tried to do them more or less simultaneously and found either way was a PITA. But once it is in, it is worth it.

[Daz]

I have seen someone's post somewhere (Mnet or here) that put it inside the area behind the fog light on the passenger side. It was a different kit than Thompson. Daz on Mnet put a cooler in that spot which looked good.

I have the filter mounted in that space as well as the oil cooler and fan. Here's a picture: http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?bg=CCCCCC&image=http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/123000-123999/123091_58_full.jpg

More info on my set up (including materials/parts lists) are on My Cardomain site (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/123091/1).