Proposed new Intake Manifold

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Well, I was thinking something like this. Beings as I have most of it already in stock. All I have to build is the one piece. It has the E-Cool already aimed in the rigt direction, WI aimed the right direction, poins for boost gauges or IM temp probe. EGR would simply tube down into the plate. The intake tube has not been located yet so this is concept but, what do you want for 15 minutes at SolidWorks?

http://www.FastForwardSuperchargers.com/Hotside/Hotside-IM.htm

I could have these available in probably 2 weeks for 94-97 or 99+. Manifolds are already in stock.

Thoughts/comments?

[HotsideHamid]

Whoa! That looks cool..... I guess it would flow pretty well too. I've never looked at the insides of my intake manifold, but is it pretty restrictive compared to yours? This is essentially the coldside manifold but altered a bit, right? Man, that would be awesome!

-Hamid

[kiwiata]

i would be a starter :-)

[Serpico]

Looks very good Tom! Ready in a couple weeks???? Man , you're quick !!!!!
You're making it very tough to be satisfied with what we have now.... :)

I wasn't disputing what Bill says about the benefits of the manifold. Right now I'm just at the point where I have to ask myself is spending another $750 worth it. My setup runs great once the engine is fully warmed up.

However, if I find myself having to pull a bunch of timing this summer to fight any pinging , you can bet that I will be calling you to place an order for one.

With the addition of the PC-Pro and the new blower outlet my car is running pretty damn good..... :devil:

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Hamid, it is the coldside manifold and plate with a modified inlet.

Kiwiata, You're too easy. ;)

Serpico, I think I have all of the old three letter logo off your car now, right? If so, this would simply be the icing on the cake. ;)

[Serpico]

almost!!!!!!!

I have just one reminder , but it's well hidden....

[Serpico]

I forgot to mention that I took another drive this morning and thanks to you FIRST GEAR IS PRETTY MUCH USELESS :)

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

I do what I can. :cheers2:

[Scuba Steve]

almost!!!!!!!

I have just one reminder , but it's well hidden....

Once I install the BTB, that bracket will be the last remnant of the of the original vendor on mine as well :elf:

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

That won't stop me from finding new ways for you guys to open your wallets. ;) Like intake manifolds.

[Serpico]

Scuba S, Get busy and put that BTB on!!!! It's time to go driving!!!!

Tom, I think I will shoot my computer if or when I get the intake manifold.... ;)

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Tom, I think I will shoot my computer if or when I get the intake manifold.... ;)

Won't do you any good. I have your phone number and will text you new products. ;)

[Scuba Steve]

Scuba S, Get busy and put that BTB on!!!! It's time to go driving!!!!


Haven't received it yet. The outlet manifold and BTB (I assume Tom shipped the BTB with it) should arrive Monday.

The cars just came out of storage today. I'm putting the xd-16 and steering wheel in tomorrow and having the bung for the WB O2 sensor welded this week. I will install the rest of the wideband during the week.

The outlet manifold, BTB, anodized pulleys, radiator, and PcPRo will go in next weekend.

I'm holding off on installing the e-cool until I hear more about the new intake manifold.

[Scuba Steve]

I too would be intersted in the manifold. In fact, as I mentioned in the previous post, I am holding off installing the e-cool in the DTB dur to the possibility of using the manifold.

Tom - When Bill was talking about the improvements in drivability with the SOT manifold, you were not convinced it could be so beneficial.

Just curious, what changed your mind?

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Steve, could be long conversations with Bill over the last couple weeks has changed my thinking? Was that here or mnet that I said I didn't think much of it? To be honest, I don't remember saying much about it one way or the other. What I don't like about the R4, if anything, is the sharp edges at the ports. The thing they did well was the short runners. Our manifold not only has short runners but also "horn" shaped runners (wide opening down to the port size) with as large a filet as we could manage to help smooth the flow into the runners.

I tried to find comments by me about it and couldn't. If you can find some links, let me know. The original hoopla about theirs was the reduced volume. I knid of remember thinking (remarking?) that compared to the rest of the throttled volume, reducing the IM by half left still a lot of throttled volume. Mine will do the same as there is still a lot of throttled volume in the crossover tune as well as the A/A IC if used. I think the major benefit of E-Cool is getting rid of the A/A IC and it's associated weight and throttled volume for under 220WHP applications.

[Scuba Steve]

I tried to find comments by me about it and couldn't. If you can find some links, let me know. ... I knid of remember thinking (remarking?) that compared to the rest of the throttled volume, reducing the IM by half left still a lot of throttled volume.

Tom - I don't remember if it was a post, email, or phone conversation. As I rememember, it was as you state above, you didn't think it would reduce enough volume to make a big improvement on idle dip with an intercooler.

It will be interesting to see if the IM and e-cool cool the air charge enough to remove the intercooler on our hotsides.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Even with the stock manifold we got rid of the A/W IC on Chuck's car.

[Serpico]

Tom,

I would love to get rid of the intercooler to regain the air flow to the radiator.

What's the chance of putting a water injection port (as well as a fifth injector port) on the IM and putting together a kit for water injection since the Split Second (or second PC-Pro) can handle the H20 pulse?

Since the A/A intercooler robs us of a couple psi, we could also spin the blower slower and still have the same amount of boost (and possibly even less heat would be generated).

just an idea.......???

[Serpico]

nevermind...I read the first post again and see you already thought of that....

duh.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

I'll make one up and try and get Chuck to volunteer his car. If there is potential for more power or less ping, I'm sure he will. After all, he has to live up to his new title. ;)

[Serpico]

Cooooool!

I'm sure you'll have to twist his arm..... ;)

[chuckerants]

Now that I have plenty of free time, just LMK when and where and I'll be there. :)

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

I will be at Mike's tomorrow. All I need is to locate the inlet hole in space with respect to the port face. I will grab a manifold off the shelf and get that x,y,z dimension. Then I can put my engineering staff to work on it.

[chuckerants]

...Except for next week that is. :(

We're taking this opportunity of free time to show off the new tax deduction to Grandma in SoCal. We'll be back by Saturday though.

http://www.chuckfullobeans.com/images/babypics/4571.jpg

[FormerDatsun510Man]

Tom,

I think that is a great idea you have with the intake manifold. The fact that it shares the manifold with the Coldside is great in that you know it already works and also that it could now make it easier to convert a Hotside to a Coldside if the owner decides to do so. The only potential drawback that I can see compared to the SOT manifold is that the throttled volume is a little bit bigger and also the air inlet to the manifold is not in the center. However, I am not sure if these two things will have any real world effect.

As far as the sharp edges on the SOT manifold, that is the first thing I noticed also, and I spent an hour with the dremel carefully radiusing them out so as to smooth out the airflow as much as possible.

Bill

[FormerDatsun510Man]

Anyway, I hope the other former guys from BRP don't think I am a traitor for hanging out here and given out advise. I just want to help for the better of the Miata supercharged community :). I just want everyone's car to run better.

Bill

[Scuba Steve]

Anyway, I hope the other former guys from BRP don't think I am a traitor for hanging out here and given out advise. I just want to help for the better of the Miata supercharged community :). I just want everyone's car to run better.Bill
Bill - Merely my .02, but I cannot imagine anyone thinking of you as a traitor. If other BRP folks wanted to share opinions, I think it would be welcomed. Sharing knowledge is good thing and hearing multiple opinions lets a consumer weigh the opinions and make a more informed decision.

I think it is great you have been active in this community.

[Curiousgb]

Anyway, I hope the other former guys from BRP don't think I am a traitor for hanging out here and given out advise. I just want to help for the better of the Miata supercharged community :). I just want everyone's car to run better.

Bill
I have a bunch of BRP equipment and I for one don't have any bad things to say about either FFS or BRP. I am glad you are still around to share your knowledge.

[Wayne-n-Fla]

Bill,
Hope you are enjoying "mud Bug" season, now maybe you could explain the physical mechanics of how just by reducing throtle vol.with the R-4 you'll were able to run so much more boost w/o ping ???

[Wayne-n-Fla]

[QUOTE=Serpico;6

What's the chance of putting a water injection port (as well as a fifth injector port) on the IM and putting together a kit for water injection since the Split Second (or second PC-Pro) can handle the H20 pulse?
[/QUOTE] Another test for the "Test Monkey", does placement of the WI injector have any effect on WHP, placement in new outlet manifold VS where Chuck has it now { {DTB ??}

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Bill,

It has the air entering exactly the same as the coldside. That is the same discharge location from the SC. Mine IM is ~120ci including the runners. What do you think is the volume of the BRP version? As there is 1728 ci in a cf, 120 ci is only 0.07 cf. The crossover pipe is 147 ci all by itself.

ps. I could 'BAN' you if you thought it would help? :) Just kidding people. I know I appreciate your input. A lot of the time you are even right. ;)

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

The manifold has the e-cool location already drilled and tapped as well as the WI port. Both aim the spray directly into the air intake where the turbulence is greatest for maximum distribution. Ports are also provided for the vac/boost line and an IM temperature probe, if desired, for tuning e-cool and WI.

Another test for the "Test Monkey", does placement of the WI injector have any effect on WHP, placement in new outlet manifold VS where Chuck has it now { {DTB ??}

[FormerDatsun510Man]

Thanks for the encouragement everyone :).

Wayne, the exact reason for the R4/HFI manifold greatly reducing ping is not known yet from testing... the only definitive part is the effect of it in testing. That is, the ping threshold was greatly improved on air/air intercooled hotsides compared to when they would run the stock intake manifold. My guestimate for the cause is that the R4/HFI (and also Tom's Coldside manifold), offers superior airflow to the four intake ports. Specifically I think it allows more evenly distributed airflow which would result in all four cylinders seeing a closer a/f ratio... remember, your wideband a/f ratio is really only measuring the average of all four cylinders. Generally speaking, the leanest cylinder of the four will ping first and if they are better balanced you can move the airflow/boost to a higher point before you will be at the same ping threshold. The other guestimate reason is that the R4/HFI/Coldside manifold offers much less thermal mass than the boat anchor stock intake manifold. Less thermal mass and less volume (time) for the air to get heated back up after it has already been cooled down by the intercooler.

Tom, I am not sure on the volume exactly of the R4/HFI manifold. But I do know from looking at it that it is quite a bit smaller in volume than the Coldside manifold. Is it enough of a difference to matter in real world results? Beats me, but I think the Coldside manifold being used is a good one for all the rest of the parts that already bolt up and it is a known quantity that works. Plus, I just had an evil idea of sticking an MP62 blower on the Coldside while running an MP90 or one of those new Eaton blowers on the Hotside with an air/air IC sandwiched in between them, built engine, 400rwhp, etc. :) The R4/HFI manifold basically has the smallest volume possible for it to have a single pipe inlet and four ports for the intake ports. If I would have to guess it would be somewhere between 1/2-2/3 the volume of the Coldside plenum.

Bill

[FormerDatsun510Man]

One other thing, I am kinda of curious now what kind of max power level that can be achieved on intercooled Hotsides with the new supercharger outlet manifold we are now all happily running :). If it gains 10rwhp at 200rwhp, just imagine what it would do around 300rwhp?

It looks like I might have finally secured a location I can put my car up and remove and rebuild the engine :). When you mentioned the 6-speed you had laying around that is all it takes for me to decide to start the 300rwhp project on my car. The madness never ends LOL.

Bill

[HotsideHamid]

Do it Bill..... Do it! The curiosity is killing me as well. My car is paid off and I'm really wanting to make my car a beast- My goal for now is 250 hp though. I'd really like to see all of these cool new parts taken to the limit as well.

-Hamid

[FormerDatsun510Man]

150mm crank pulley here I come! :) Well, maybe I will start with a 130 first LOL.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Well, I was just up at the shop and they are going to make me a 150. This 130 just isn't enough anymore. ;)

[Banshee]

150mm crank pulley here I come! :) Well, maybe I will start with a 130 first LOL.

Maybe you should hang on to the WI kit.

[FormerDatsun510Man]

Don't need the WI with the HFI manifold setup. If I find I need WI I will back the pulley down. I am 100% sure in the worse case scenario, the 130 crank pulley will be really safe with 9:1 CR, big air/air IC and HFI manifold. Actually I may do the 140 pulley as that is a good relatively safe max power pulley ratio. My only concern is the JR header flowing well enough.... might need a Gibb header if I can find one.

Tom, you gotta be pulling my leg :). There is no way you can safely run a 150 crank pulley on a Coldside. There :), the seeds are planted LOL.

Bill

[HotsideHamid]

Bill-
Are you going to find the limits of your bad engine first? What a perfect way to test! You said you have the high flow outlet manifold already, right? How do you guys make these purchases without the wife going crazy:no: ?!

-Hamid

[Griff]

I'm guessing it will be better than std but I have to admit the BEGI version certainly looks more efficient to my untrained eye.

I think they want around $500 for that.

[FormerDatsun510Man]

Bill-
Are you going to find the limits of your bad engine first? What a perfect way to test! You said you have the high flow outlet manifold already, right? How do you guys make these purchases without the wife going crazy:no: ?!

-Hamid

Easy, no wife! I ran my last gf off! LOL

Seriously, my current bad engine I want to rebuild so I don't want to put a hole in the side of the block. I won't test the limits in that I already know where they are :). Stock rods and 150 crank aren't too happy. So when I do the rebuild I will either put in forged rods and use the 150 crank to hit whatever it hits :), or with stock rods I will use either 130 or 140. Either way, with 9:1 CR and 93 octane, I am certain this setup won't ping. Coolant reroute will be mandatory also. The most conservative approach will be to use a stock '94-'97 bottom end (for its 9:1 CR), new head gasket and plop my current head on it and use the 130 pulley. With that I am expecting an easy 230rwhp, maybe more with the new outlet manifold.

Bill

[FormerDatsun510Man]

I'm guessing it will be better than std but I have to admit the BEGI version certainly looks more efficient to my untrained eye.

I think they want around $500 for that.

Actually I have heard of reversion problems with some of the log style intake manifolds. Looks can be deceiving. It would be new ground to test that manifold with a Hotside MP62. I would certainly be curious :). Given enough funds I would love to test all of the manifolds. However, the SOT HFI was already tested to perform very well with the Hotside MP62 and I think the Coldside manifold will perform similarly. A consideration is that the plenum design on these are different than the log style. On a log style the air enters from the front and hits the backside of the plenum. On the SOT HFI and to a somewhat lesser extent on the Coldside manifold, the air comes in from above in the center. It would appear to me that this would work better in equally filling all four cylinders in one direct shot. With a log style the air is tending to want to go to #4 from my eye. Granted, the log style extends beyond the #4 to try to correct this, but testing would need to be done to see what happens on a supercharged high output Miata.

Bill

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

You had to go and say that, didn't you? Now the gauntlet is down. What will break/bend first with 190ft-lbs at 1500 RPM? The rods?


Don't need the WI with the HFI manifold setup. If I find I need WI I will back the pulley down. I am 100% sure in the worse case scenario, the 130 crank pulley will be really safe with 9:1 CR, big air/air IC and HFI manifold. Actually I may do the 140 pulley as that is a good relatively safe max power pulley ratio. My only concern is the JR header flowing well enough.... might need a Gibb header if I can find one.

Tom, you gotta be pulling my leg :). There is no way you can safely run a 150 crank pulley on a Coldside. There :), the seeds are planted LOL.

Bill

[Curiousgb]

Bill-
Are you going to find the limits of your bad engine first? What a perfect way to test! You said you have the high flow outlet manifold already, right? How do you guys make these purchases without the wife going crazy:no: ?!

-Hamid
My wife just wants to know if it will help her beat the Vette/GT. And since she ran her first autox last weekend the "House Appropriations Committee" has loosened it restrictions! New set of tires and posible a 130 pulley!


Tom/Bill,

Do you think I can safely run a 130 with my current setup?

[Wayne-n-Fla]

The manifold has the e-cool location already drilled and tapped as well as the WI port. Both aim the spray directly into the air intake where the turbulence is greatest for maximum distribution. Ports are also provided for the vac/boost line and an IM temperature probe, if desired, for tuning e-cool and WI.
Tom, I was refering to the new outlet manifold on a HS as a placement point for WI, thus haveing the most contact time for cooling the hot air from the SC, this vs WI at the DTB ??

[Serpico]

Well, I was just up at the shop and they are going to make me a 150. This 130 just isn't enough anymore. ;)


GO TOM GO !!!!!!

My 115mm is looking pretty small these days...... You coldside, non-VVT guys have all the fun :mad:

[FormerDatsun510Man]

You had to go and say that, didn't you? Now the gauntlet is down. What will break/bend first with 190ft-lbs at 1500 RPM? The rods?


I don't think it is 190ft-lb that would bend rods, but rather the peak of 230-240ft-lb at 5000rpm with the 150 pulley. From what I have seen, it appears to me these engines may start bending rods a bit over 200ft-lb. I am thinking the sound from the bottomend on my engine is from a bent rod or two.. makes an oscillating whomp, whomp, whomp sound with rpm. I am going to check it when I pull the engine... I'm curious :). I tested a 126/60 pulley (close to a 140 pulley with the standard 65 nose pulley) on my engine with the ELF. Ooops :). I have more confidence with the PC Pro, bigger IC and HFI manifold on there now to be able to safely handle a 130 pulley and perhaps a 140 with stock engine (though it will be 9:1). If I go for the rods, I will have to at least give the 150 a shot.

Bill

[Elphaba]

I will be at Mike's tomorrow. All I need is to locate the inlet hole in space with respect to the port face. I will grab a manifold off the shelf and get that x,y,z dimension. Then I can put my engineering staff to work on it. :ack2: COUGH! 1.6 COUGH 1.6:ack2: Umm catching cold...:rolleyes:

[lovemx5]

:ack2: COUGH! 1.6 COUGH! 1.6 :ack2: Umm, must be contagious... ;)

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Bottle of cough medicine sent off today to both of you. Dan's car is under lock and key on Mondays. No can touch. Besides, I have Ricky working on that project and he will do a great job.

Had a hotside car here for a few days and had to make it run for him. Got it up from 150WHP with ping to ~185 without ping. :-)

[HotsideHamid]

What'd you do to it Tom? Did you just add a PCPro and E-cool, or is there more?

-Hamid

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

I'll wait for Jim to tell you.

[FormerDatsun510Man]

150 to 185rwhp? What setup was that? The new 1.6 hotside?

Bill

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

No. An old BRP 2001 hotside.

[Elphaba]

:drool5: Actually: I was thinking a nice fancy new intake manifold would make my engine compartment look even better sitting next to the MP-62 hotside on my...COUGH! COUGH 1.6... Hummm cant shake it...:Angel_anim:

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

If I had a nice fancy new intake manifold for your 1.6L, we would be putting a coldside on it instead of the hotside. ;)

[kiwiata]

hey Tom, will you be running a prototype manifold ? one query though - I still have the IAC valve and DTB on my 94 and the idle is good. If I put a high flow manifold on, where will the IAC valve go ? or is it removed ? keen to hear about any dyno runs.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

I will make one. Don't know when. I'm sure we will test it on Chuck's car as he loves to volunteer. :)

DTB will be tossed. IAC will mount remote. The DTB is the wrong place for it anyhow. It was never designed to see boost.

[HotsideHamid]

Wait..... So if I went for your hi flow manifold, would that mean that the little check valve I just installed between my intake and AIC wouldn't be necessary? I was so stoked on that mod!
Oh well, I think I may need to get a new radiator before the manifold, so I'll be able to enjoy the part a little longer.

-Hamid

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

The check valve is put in to cure a problem with the IAC valve being mounted on the DTB. It should not be there to begin with. We have a re-locate bracket to move it off the DTB and eliminate that hose and check valve. Helps idle as well. The IAC was never designed to see boost. Which it does when mounted on te DTB.

[99mx5]

Actually the IAC mounted on the dummy throttle body doesnt have any effect. The original purpose is to allow air to bypass the throttle body butterfly and in the DTB, it is entirely behind the throttle body.

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Actually it does. The hose with the check valve comes from before the TB and it discharges into the DTB which is after the throttle plate. However, the SC is also inbetween. The main problem is that the DTB side of the IAC is under high boost. 20PSI for some of us. :blush5: Then you lift and it heads for 20" Hg which is like -10PSI so it instantly sees a LARGE cange in pressure on the discharge side. All the while trying to hit the desired seting for idle.

Actually the IAC mounted on the dummy throttle body doesnt have any effect. The original purpose is to allow air to bypass the throttle body butterfly and in the DTB, it is entirely behind the throttle body.

[FormerDatsun510Man]

Tom's right, I recall an improvement in idle on my setup when I moved the IAC from the DTB to the TB where it belongs. It isn't designed to see boost, which is what happens when it is at the DTB. The reason we put checkvalve in that air hose that goes to the IAC when mounted to DTB is to prevent backflow of pressurized air from the intake manifold back to the pre TB spot. The problem is that even with the checkvalve, the IAC is still seeing pressure in its valving that it wasn't designed for.

Bill

[Kestrel]

The check valve is put in to cure a problem with the IAC valve being mounted on the DTB. It should not be there to begin with. We have a re-locate bracket to move it off the DTB and eliminate that hose and check valve. Helps idle as well. The IAC was never designed to see boost. Which it does when mounted on te DTB.


I'd be interested in learning more about this relocation bracket. Got any photos?
Currently, I've got an old style BRP BTB and the cast DTB with the hose and check valve installed. Would the relocation bracket work with this setup?

I can try and send you some photos if that would be helpful. I'd love to be able to reduce my idle droop issue.

BTW I like the idea of taking your existing intake manifold and converting it for hotside use. Now if a hotside owner ever decided to convert to a coldside setup could he/she still use the same manifold?

Jeff

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Jeff,

Here is a 3D of the 99-00 IAC on the firewall. Ignore the distribution block. That is for our coldside kits.

http://www.fastForwardSuperchargers.com/99-00-IAC.htm

The manifold could be used for future conversion to coldside but you would still need a lot of parts and the SC would have to have the bypass moved to the other side. It is do-able by yourself but not recommended. Magnuson will do it for $100, I believe.

[Kestrel]

Jeff,

Here is a 3D of the 99-00 IAC on the firewall. Ignore the distribution block. That is for our coldside kits.

http://www.fastForwardSuperchargers.com/99-00-IAC.htm

The manifold could be used for future conversion to coldside but you would still need a lot of parts and the SC would have to have the bypass moved to the other side. It is do-able by yourself but not recommended. Magnuson will do it for $100, I believe.

Tom, looks good. Any idea on pricing and availability? Will you include some type of piece to cover the the old IAC location and a new air intake connector?

Jeff

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Jeff,

I will have to work up a price. If your IAC is already on the real TB, it is OK. If it is on the DTB, and you move it, you are correct that it will need a plate to cover the hole. I will look at the cost for the additional plate. I will need two of them. One for the 94-97 and one for the 88+. Give me a couple weeks and bump my memory. Right now I am swamped.

[zoom2xtn]

TOM

How's the new intake manifold for hotside coming?

Lee

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

It got a back burner due to high sales and the 1.6L project and a few other items. Now that inventory is back on the shelves and shipping is back to 2-3 business days, I might just finish that prohect. :) All I need is the dimension in space for the inlet pipe. The rest is done. For that, what I need is my original inlet manifold which is in storage at my son's house. Maybe I'll run over this AM and get it?

[HotsideHamid]

Sweet Tom! I'm curious as to what the gains would be. Also, for some reason I must have overlooked these last few posts until now. I would also be really interested in a possible IAC relocation kit too. I'm sure your plate is full though, so I understand.

-Hamid

[HotsideHamid]

So does anyone else have a quick review to give for the SC inlet manifold? I want to keep my excitement level up! BTW Tom, I haven't bought anything from you yet, but I promise that I will soon. Your advice has been very valuable.:yes:

-Hamid

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

OK. Here is the revised manifold assembly. It has all the right dimensions. If a couple of you decide you would like one, I will get some made. $800. Pre-drilled for WI, boost port and E-Cool. Extra 1/8NPT port for whatever (Intake Temperature Probe, for example?).

http://www.FastForwardSuperchargers.com/Hotside/Hotside-IM2.htm

[roadsterboy]

What's happening with the revised intake manifold. Has anybody ordered and installed one yet? If so, can we get a review? Thanks.

[chuckerants]

What's happening with the revised intake manifold. Has anybody ordered and installed one yet? If so, can we get a review? Thanks.

I don't think he's had a chance to work on it yet. But, I keep reminding him that the new IM is not forgotten by us hotsiders. :)

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

As soon as we get the inventory back up to snuff for the coldside kits, I will devote more time to the hotside manifold. I have dropped the drawings off at the mnachine shop and they are supposed to make a 'first part' sometime in the next couple weeks. However, I am keeping them busy with coldside inventory production at the moment.

[kiwiata]

Tom, will the new IM fit my RHD ?? Is the design ready for sale ? I am a starter for one and a bigger pulley of course - this engine just won't die !!:2guns:

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Yes, it will fit your RHD. It is not ready as yet. I just haven't had time. Sorry.

[Mx5-4me]

how hard would it be to adapt a throttle body to this for turbo guys?

[Tom @ Fast Forward]

Hmm? Not hard at all, I guess. It would just need to be cut short and have a flange welded on. Interesting idea.

how hard would it be to adapt a throttle body to this for turbo guys?