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MS2KSE
10-18-2007, 12:01 AM
I've been intrusted with my grandson's 2000 Miata while he's serving in Iraq, and he requested that I look into adding a FI system for him.
I've been reading all I can here and on m.net site.
My question is how close or far am I from the true cost of a Cold Side system ?

Unit cost XXXX
Install and have dyno tuned* $ 1000.00
Clutch {MSM} $ 350.00 and install ** $ 800.00
Koyo Rad. and install $ 450.00

* the install would include a 2001 header that he already had, the shop has worked on lots of Honda's but no Miata's

** resurfacing the flywheel included

Anything else I should consider ??

Thank you
:angel: pray for the safe return of all out troops

Gayle

maggie
10-18-2007, 08:24 AM
Add a wideband O-2 sensor and A/F ratio gauge for peace of mind.

Tom @ Fast Forward
10-18-2007, 10:22 AM
Too bad you can't get it out here. Mike's Place does the install for $750 and I do before and after dynos for free. I doubt he would charge $800 do do the clutch and flywheel install.

Your grandson and all our men and women are in our prayers daily.

snakebit
10-18-2007, 11:23 AM
You may not need either the new clutch or radiator, at least not right away. If the car is driven smoothly and not launched hard, the stock clutch may last a while longer. What size pulley do you want to run? If the car is only street driven, the stock rad may be fine forever.

Tom @ Fast Forward
10-18-2007, 11:31 AM
My 05 is still running the stock clutch. About 25,000 superchargerd miles now. The caveat is that I think it would last as long as a performance clutch if you NEVER do a drag strip launch at a stop sign. Once you are rolling, the stock clutch is fine.

The stock Miata makes about 70 ft-lbs torque peak. The kit makes 150 ft-lbs peak. That is not the problem. The problem is at 1000 RPM starting from a dead stop. The stock Miata makes about 30 ft-lbs at most. The Coldside makes about 140 ft-lbs. Almost 5 to 1. Avoid the launch (right Ari? :)) and the stock clutch will survive.

99mx5
10-18-2007, 12:36 PM
Ahh yes... I loved that launch... I hated the clutch smell :driving:It was going to happen sooner or later.

I'm tempted to offer a CS installation service. Everyone says mine looks like it came from the factory. :cool:

jacky1982
10-20-2007, 07:10 AM
Thanks! That's great!

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Serpico
10-20-2007, 08:06 AM
My 05 is still running the stock clutch. About 25,000 superchargerd miles now. The caveat is that I think it would last as long as a performance clutch if you NEVER do a drag strip launch at a stop sign. Once you are rolling, the stock clutch is fine.

Same here.....

I've got about 20,000 boosted miles on my stock clutch and no signs of slipping.

If he loves doing burnouts then definitely upgrade the clutch, otherwise just save your dollars or spend it on something else.

* I recommend spending the clutch money on a Wideband Air/Fuel sensor and gauge. It eliminates a lot of guessing and gives you great piece of mind.

MS2KSE
10-20-2007, 04:23 PM
Add a wideband O-2 sensor and A/F ratio gauge for peace of mind.
I would have the installer dyno tune it and am hoping for a "set it and forget it"
and I don't plan on any interior gauges, I'll let him do all that BUT, O K, so which one would everybody suggest with 2 things in mind;
1. Cost

2. Installation; I was reading a post about a wire-in that sounded like a CF in the making ??